Mudd’s Women (TOS)

Season 1 Episode 8

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I think he did a great job of bringing this to the Forefront of like this pressure that we are put under whether it’s ourselves or by society that we have to look a certain way or to get a man because none of that other [  ] is important perhaps I could use this as an excuse to go to those far-off planets with little polka dotted people if necessary and be able to talk about love war and nature of God sex all those things that go to make up the excitement of The Human Condition [Music] Captain James Kirk spot your move Captain Jim Kirk of the Enterprise what’s going on I’m James these people are my friend and my shipment you my crew alone out of the question James ideas get out of my chair dude get out of it now my greetings and felicitations yet so good of you and your offices to uh drop in absolutely smashing hey everybody Welcome to humanist Trek it’s a Star Trek podcast about the humanism in Star Trek I’m Sarah Ray and I’m Ali ashmead and welcome back hey everybody so glad you all are sticking with us uh this has been fun yeah it’s been fun it’s almost Halloween like right around the corner uh we’ve been decorating the yard are you big Halloween decorator person um yeah I am no not as not lately not in the last few years but when we used to live in Florida many houses ago I decided to just go all out for Halloween decorate the front yard put a smoke machine out graveyard make it as scary as possible when the kids came around we put speakers in the the upstairs bedroom window that points out to the door and we had like creepy music and then my brother-in-law we dressed him in the Army fatigues and a scary clown costume with a fake knife yeah we were hardcore and then I I always had some scary uh grotesque costume on one one day I was The Grudge the girl from The Grudge I’ve been all kinds of weird [  ]
and our purpose was to just scare the [  ] out of the kids and and halfway through decorate I’m like was this too much but um it was like nah let’s do it the kids turn out to love it the parents loved it too they would come to the door and as they approached the door we had my brother-in-law hid behind a column Jesus and you would if if I had a camera then because this was years ago and people didn’t always have phone cameras if I had a camera for some of their faces we laughed so hard my husband didn’t dress up so he would do the one of the little tiny kids would come to the door we would put him in place to get give out candy because we really didn’t want to yeah traumatize the little ones but the the older ones see I loved it and I hated scary Halloween is not my thing at all it’s mine it’s mine and I don’t know like every year um we would have to do it again because they would be like are you doing it this year and so yeah so we did that for several years we were so like we you know we lived in Florida and we would go to like Mickey’s Not So Scary Halloween party that’s my speed of Halloween right so you don’t like the Halloween Horror Nights I [  ] would not go really so
I think let me put my feet up on the chair and tell you the therapist story of how my parents ruined me um I think this is a Trauma from my childhood I remember I don’t know where we were it was like a uh like one of those you know Carnivals that comes into town or whatever and there was a fun
house and I remember my dad like really pressuring me to go through this thing like because I said I wanted to go and then he paid the money for it and then you’re scared and was like uh never mind and he was like really you’re gonna be pushing for it um I hated it scared the [  ] out of me and it’s like we didn’t even get through the door I turned around and left yeah and that and I think go with you I think that did yeah I don’t know I love scary stuff I don’t didn’t really get to do a lot of that when I was a kid so maybe that’s what I like but um I do find it hard these days to watch a movie by myself a scary show like like American horror stories or something I I have a problem with sitting and doing it by myself um but I still like it no I some people was it serotonin or dopamine or something some people really get a hit of something good yeah dopamine when they get scared and Nami my brain doesn’t do that again oh I mean you know it’s okay yeah it’s good they’re different folks yeah different speeds for everybody but Halloween is is for everybody so we’re doing an hour yard we hung up some you know little ghosty things and uh it’s cute it’s really cute Becca took one of those orange plastic and pumpkin pails that you you know you take trick-or-treating and cut the back out and like you you put that around your porch lights I’m totally stealing it’s a glowing pumpkin so we need a couple more of those pumpkins to finish up the garage lights um and then the lights up under the porch are all purple I made this cute little thing with the uh uh they look like little bags those are tea light holders and they look like little pumpkins and I bought some orange lights and ran through there and we’ve got that up on the porch we also made some really cool tombstones just out of like some leftover plywood or whatever um and Becca came up with the idea to make them all gamer themed so so we’ve got one that’s like Pac-Man game over with a high score and my son wanted to do a Minecraft themed one so it’s got like a pickaxe on the top nice you know where the icon thing goes and then it it has his gamer tag fell from a high place it’s gonna have like the respawn buttons and everything that’s something something fun and you know it’s very creative though too yeah I’m sure she found them on Google well you never know uh but speaking of Disney Halloween Hocus Pocus 2. I haven’t caused some controversy I haven’t seen it I haven’t seen it yet either no but this lady in Texas telling everybody not to watch this movie Central Texas mother warning parents that the sequel to The Cult Disney favorite release this past week worst case scenario she says you unleash hell on your kids and in your home this whole movie is based on witches harvesting children for blood sacrifices okay listen there’s no evidence of that ever happening well no I mean not as yeah and like how you know how connected is this to satanic Panic type stuff like demons and Hell spawn and uh witches and all of this stuff like no proof we’re we’re just having fun okay like calm the hell down yeah I feel like that every time a movie comes out I mean there wouldn’t be any movies like have you seen like Amityville or some of the um the religious based movies like exorcism and stuff right come on lady right yeah she and of course this is like to her this is a whole big culture War thing she said I think it goes further than just a movie it goes further than Halloween it’s a year-round thing uh we need to be cautious of what we’re consuming what we’re bringing in well I mean I do agree with her there what we need to become we always should be cautious of what we’re right but this is fiction it’s fun it’s three women being comedic and it’s you know it’s not really and there are some religious people that believe in like if you buy a a lamp out of second-hand store you could be inviting demons into your home that are stuck in the lamp and like there’s some real out like wild out there stuff I’d buy that lamp I want to see what happens or that the Smurfs are somehow evil and are are bringing Satan into your home all kinds of crazy [  ] um but anyway Hocus Pocus 2 has a fun Star Trek tie-in do you know what it is Hocus Pocus a Star Trek tie-in oh man with the trivia I don’t know I don’t know no points for this one so
Billy butcherson is played by Doug Jones who’s the actor that plays saru on Star Trek Discovery yeah awesome great character actor like he does all kinds of aliens and his body is so slim and Tall so he can pull off a lot of clanky arms and legs yeah yeah he’s so
good so there you go awesome well hey let’s get to the episode that we came here to discuss today at Star Trek the Original Series season 1 episode 7 mud’s women sir contact with an object it’s moving toward us no visual contact Yet reflector’s full intensity visual contact
dominated by ionization effects on engines full stop this was what did you think of this episode oh man where do I start we’ve got slavery misogyny we’ve got a little bit of everything going on here yeah okay pimping you know so we start
out the Enterprises in pursuit of some unknown cargo vessel and this cargo ship is like pushing its engines too hard trying to outrun them uh Uhura has tried hailing them no answer and they’re approaching an asteroid belt here’s the only research I did Spock says it’s Schiller rating
three five about this asteroid belt and I was like what what the hell is that like is that a real rating is it a star treky thing so I looked it up and this is the only time it has been mentioned in the Star Trek universe I didn’t find anything real okay cool
interesting tidbit on this one I don’t know if you noticed the stardate at the beginning I did not so I’ve been paying attention and I know that you had mentioned in in several episodes that we did that you know they may not have released it in a certain order right or they may not have released it in the
order that they were produced right so the start date on this one was 1329.8 which is uh before like the last episode so I was like so I found out that okay I found the actual production release order um so how and obviously it’s it’s not one two three
um it’s it’s kind of all out all over the place but this particular episode it was one of three of the episodes that were submitted to be the second pilot oh for Star Trek I didn’t know that the other um episodes were Omega Glory and no where no man has gone before so the order of this one that’s interesting I
didn’t know was actually the production code for this one was number four okay so earlier yeah much earlier much earlier one of these days I think I want to watch them in production order just to see like if that changes my person I’m never gonna do this this is way too much of a commitment too much
work you know just to see if that changes like my perception of the character’s development week after week I don’t think I think that would be interesting so I can tell you okay so let’s put the first 10 the production okay is six okay eight episode eight episode two B’s which is in the where no
man has gone before because right that was also going to be one of the pilots right then episode seven which is the naked time then five the Enemy Within then four was women and then huh and then episode 10 which was produced as the 10th episode is going to be next which is what are
little girls made of but yeah it’s not in chronological order yeah I just wonder how that affects their characters if if it’s noticeable because there’s I did make some notes on there’s some Spock moments that that are like oh that’s interesting yeah yes in this one his reaction because this was
an earlier episode right so he had less of that stoic Vulcan yeah he he had some smirks going on so this cargo cargo vessel’s engines are overloading and shut down and then the Enterprise is too far away they are they say you know we can extend our deflectors around them and protect them from asteroids but now
they’re saying nope that’s they’re too far away and even if we did that it would overload our engines right so now this uh cargo vessel is just drifting through the asteroid belt without any way to maneuver to avoid Collision and Kirk sends Scotty and Spock down to the transporter room but the Enterprise
engines are overheating now too and we get the flashing red warning light to theme yep they love to do that zoom in on a thing to fade to theme it’s usually a person it’s usually Kirk eyes to theme but this was flashing red warning light yep you could hear like things popping
and then the lights would dim and then Sulu would say oh you know we’ve we’ve blown a Dell lithium Crystal circuit or something oh I’m sorry lithium yeah there’s something about lithium yes yeah there okay so this whole episode they’re talking about lithium Crystal circuits
but later they actually changed to die lithium because that’s really what what they actually use because warp engines are powered by dilithium right instead of lithium this whole thing with the engine overheating and the crystals burning out was it was a little strange to me as a
TNG kid I think because like later it seems like those kinds of systems like deflector control and Shields and that sort of thing are not like directly affecting the engine right it’s just like a separate yeah like a separate system yeah but then the more I thought about it like well what else
does the Enterprise have than an engine and so batteries probably yeah so in later Trek where they don’t seem to be as affected yeah that’s like you said a little off to me yeah they’re all a separate they get the I guess they give power from the warp or whatever the warp core right
and I mean maybe the impulse engines generate a different set of power for other things I don’t know yeah I just thought it was an interesting yeah approach I don’t know so Sulu says now they’ve lost one of their lithium Crystal circuits um lithium is used to treat the Mania
part of bipolar disorder oh that’s right I had to look that up I didn’t actually know that that is right that’s true do they still use that because I know it was a big thing a long time ago right so what did the writers think like when you sit down to write this story and you’re okay so what powers our
engine some type of crystal is it blue comes up who says lithium and why I want that conversation and what were the other options like I mean red shirts would stick some red shirts in and power the engine yeah that’s a good point I don’t know
is it lithium actually a crystal I I don’t know it is like it does have a crystalline structure I did do some more research but do you find it in a mine that I don’t know I don’t know where you get you some lithium yep so Scotty is trying to call the cargo ship to get a transporter lock and again
this is something like I didn’t remember this from the original series either but in later Trek they scan for like life forms I love scanning for life but uh it seems like they have to establish Communication in order to get a transporter lock okay right so later
it’s like I’m scanning for these uh there are three life forms I’ll beam them aboard right log on to the live form here we have to have communication apparently another circuit goes out and now Uhuru is finally getting a distrust call from the cargo ship Scotty’s got a lock now and he beams in
Walsh Captain Leo Walsh so he beams this man this strange looking man upon board he’s this guy is speaking in a really thick Irish accent what is it with this show in Irish I don’t know I don’t know but the the Irish accent seems to later disappear and it just morphs into just
an irregular Old English accent he’s wearing some kind of cowboy hat um and one earring that literally looks like a Christmas ornament um on one ear and um he’s wearing like a fluffy like a shirt with the puffy sleeves and he’s just you know it’s kind
of like a jovial guy and ends up on the transporter pad and he introduces himself as Captain Leo Walsh and so Spock asks like how many more are in your crew and he says oh just just a few more because being very vague and mysterious um but then
as his vessel is breaking up it’s about to explode he doesn’t seem that concerned okay I didn’t get this from anyone in the episode right so Scotty makes the case of like listen we gotta beam those other three over like we gotta go quick here because uh the ship is breaking up
none of these characters sold to me a sense of urgency at all no no that they didn’t oh no there’s somebody that might die right and when they beamed uh what’s his name uh Leo Walsh on the captain Leo Walsh on the ship he wasn’t even concerned he was like this is a nice ship you know and but never mind he’s
got three other people over there that might blow up so another circuit fails and they switch over to battery now and when they try to beam the other three aboard the transporter goes all wonky the cargo ship gets nailed by an asteroid and explodes but Scotty and Spock have a lock on
something and in beams three bodacious babes oh my goodness I mean they are they are gorgeous um it’s funny how they appeared on the there all appeared in these different poses as if they’re as if they’re in a girl group yes and one is like facing
backwards and they’re all wearing these glittery sparkly dresses they are actually bombshells that’s a great point about the transporter though because every time we use the transporter we go stand in a cluster mimicking the spots on the pad facing the same direction we get
beamed in we get beamed out could the transporter in in transport could the transport operator turn you around I don’t know probably not or would the pattern somehow have that three-dimensional alignment in its data that’s weird that’s too deep these are the journeys
we go on yeah because that’s true because I’ve never seen anyone before like like appear backwards but she was posing I mean she was posed that way and I don’t know for drama so Scotty and McCoy look like they’re about to explode in their pants I know I mean what the
hell and Kirk’s calling down on the radio and the boys are just too busy drooling over these women to answer they’re literally drooling yeah Kirk wants to see this Captain immediately and Walsh says he overhears this on the radio and says hey that guy sounds a little upset
and McCoy with the just Dopey like hearts floating in his eyes while you’re in he says yes yes they are and this is where I see um Spock break character a little bit because he’s got this smirk on his face because he’s Vulcan so these women aren’t affecting him but he’s got the
smirk on his face because so they get into the elevator because cork wants to see them right away did you notice the music in this scene yes this it was like a a 40s gangster kind of yeah every time they show the women especially yeah yeah so they get into the elevator
and Leo Walsh notices he’s like hey you’re one of them well he called him a volcanian he’s really just Vulcan I wonder how long that sticks around um this is one of the early ones so I think they they changed it yeah I think you’re right that’s why the women don’t affect
him and he’s like unless unless you want it to did you notice the uh real tight close-up on the women’s masses in the hallway yes as they’re walking yeah of course of course everybody’s staring at them like literally whatever they’ve got they’re putting men in trances
um they come out of the turbo lift one of the women tries to apologize for Walsh she says like well he’s just so used to buying and selling people and that was my first red flag of the episode like oh yeah this is yeah this is everything is not what we and what it seems yeah and that one that lady that
was Eve so she was blonde and she was absolutely gorgeous and she seems like a caring person but while she cuts her off and he’s like you know get out of the lift get going so then I guess they go either to Kirk’s quarters or yeah they’re in Kirk’s quarters and I thought again I thought that was strange because
like why would they does the captain meet people in his quarters I was I thought that was strange the conference room would have been more appropriate yep and Spock announces Captain Kirk Captain Leo Walsh here to see you and he has the smirk on his face it’s so smug this is
when it was kind of a little out of character for him yeah to even crack a smile because he’s amused all the men that are literally acting like slobbering fools so he introduces the commander of this cargo vessel knowing that knowing that Kirk’s gonna want to bang all these women right probably all
at the same time that’s the hints the smirk and I he was like enjoying this because he’s so unaffected and sure enough Kirk turns around and is mesmerized but he’s not as bad as the other guys he manages some some kind of control yeah
he’s yes he’s taken by their beauty but he manages some level of decorum so he asks Walsh is this your crew and Walsh is like haha crew no this is Cargo this is me cargo yep enough to commercial we go with visions of gangbangs dancing in Kirkland after the commercial we get a Captain’s
Log about how these women have a magnetic effect on the men on the crew Kirk concluded and Visually here Spock does another out of character head tilt that kind of like it makes it appear that he too has the hots for these women he’s just controlling it I thought that was an interesting facial moment that’s
probably the the case but this is one of those episodes too that like thinking back with our woke sensibilities pushing the social boundaries right I wonder if the writers gave any thought to having women like falling all over themselves when these women walk by yeah like they didn’t they will yeah right
yeah pick a woman and have that have that one react the same way that the men are interestingly enough besides Uhura on the bridge the at the beginning didn’t see her again or any other woman in the episode if he I don’t know if you noticed I didn’t catch that no other women in the episode
except the three um well and I want to say these were like well-known actresses starring and could be they probably had to make a big deal to yeah uh or at least a big agreement that like they would be the you know the they are the the prime characters in this story I think we’re getting more and more of
that in you know woke ass new track where people are you know free to Express themselves in whatever Identity or whatever way they want um and I’m glad we are but I just I I wish they’d been able to do it back then yeah when Gene talks about like if I tell these stories uh about the human
condition but instead of humans it’s Little Green Men you get away with it like that that’s that was kind of the genius of the way he told his stories right yeah so they’re in Kirk’s cabin and Kirk informs Captain Walsh that he’s going to be convening a ship’s hearing on his
actions um that he ran from a started ship didn’t answer and he’s like well for all I know I didn’t know you were you know a Starship chasing me so naturally I ran but in the meantime he’s been confined to his quarters with the women and as he joins them I don’t know if you remember
the women are standing there and Leo Walsh comes in to the quarters that he’s confined to there’s two security guards and the women are like oh Harry Harry Harry and he’s like shushing them because they’re calling him Harry and they’re all wondering what’s going on and he tells them to be quiet and he
asks the security people to wait outside but they refuse but so then he just kind of quietly reminds the women his name is Leo Walsh but he tells them not to lie when they’re asked questions but also not to submit to a medical exam so apparently the Enterprise runs off of four lithium crystals
they said there were three that had gone out and then a fourth has the hairline fracture at the base and they have no way to bypass it so I I guess four crystals I didn’t know that no I don’t remember that from like my knowledge of mostly future Trek up on the bridge Kirk arrives to discuss
the lithium Crystal problem with Spock and Scotty and Scotty calls Walsh a jackass here and I’m not sure why but I was surprised to hear that on 1960s track I don’t know why whether I’m just like I’m projecting a like uptight more uptight conservative
TV standards on the 1960s then then was actually I don’t know I don’t know what’s going on some type of way about like oh well and then two like there eventually there became a very specific effort to like not use current colloquial phrases and
stuff um and that included like swearing because it you know you don’t for several reasons you don’t want to box your show into a time period for the language that they used yeah um right so and then also like would we have moved on or we’re not
using swear words anymore yeah new Trek is bringing it back like new Trek gets away with a lot of stuff yeah language wise that probably never would have flown back here in the 60s no so Jack even jackass made me feel like oh really Spock suggests that there’s a lithium
mining operation on rigel 12 that’s less than two days away and then the hearing begins and we have got to talk about this courtroom so we have what appears to be a lie detector machine and it’s got some like fun waveforms on the screen yeah and then you got major Barrett’s
computer voice which is uh earlier early computer voice so she hadn’t refined it yet right this was very much like I don’t even know how to describe it um but they would start asking him questions starting with please state your name Walsh live incorrect yeah everything pretty much everything
that came out of his mouth the computer is like incorrect monotonal is what the word I was trying to think of with majel’s computer voice yeah and it wasn’t very smooth um like I said she like next Generation major computer voice refined it was great it was it was like one of those phone thank you for
calling you know that kind of yeah I think that shows you like the difference in what those writers thought a computer voice of the future might sound like right that those later writers were like no it’s probably going to be much more conversational in your language whatever like than that computer choppy computer
response yes and they’re right now notice like during the hearing we’ve got Spock in the room we’ve got McCoy we’ve got Scotty and some other dude I didn’t get his name um but they’re the panel in front of the computer and pretty much everything he says
um the computers like incorrect he’s lying through his teeth and especially even with his name they finally get to the to the reveal that Leah Walsh is not his name um Harcourt Fenton mud a criminal with a an expensive they put up this beautiful piece of 1960 imagery here that little
data file that comes up on the little screen and it’s just hilarious offense record smuggling sentence sentences psychiatric treatment Effectiveness disputed several things out of this one slide are we still using the term police in the future no please God no security forces or
something yeah police yeah so yeah and then they treated his offenses with psychiatric treatment what does that look like I mean that’s kind of how do we feel about that I mean that’s kind of cool like that they’re not just locking people up anymore because obviously it doesn’t work right
and and it becomes like a business in in some cases to certain prison corporations so I think psychiatric treatment may be Humane more Humane yeah than just maybe liking I mean I think they still lock people up but yeah but they at least that that was kind of cool I thought yeah I also think this could
have come from so you know Gene had a history with the LAPD his dad was a cop he was a cop for a while and then he also wrote on or wrote four various TV police TV shows how did I know that so you have a military background and we’ve talked about before and now the police background that I hadn’t considered but
yeah I think that’s kind of where this imagery of like a you know you would see that like an old detective show like their police record yeah uh looking exactly like that visually yeah now Kirk’s looking to add Galaxy travel without a flight plan without an identification beam and a failure to
answer a Starship signal operation of a vessel without a master’s license it just goes on and on and I don’t know what a master’s license is how you get one or I didn’t know that you needed that but yeah mud claims he does have one but computer Majel says incorrect it was remote
that’s right while mud starts explaining we get some dramatic music and close-ups of the women making eyes at McCoy and Scotty smolder they’re doing smolder smolder and then they’re just drooling Mudd says he’s on his way to some planet to provide these women as wives to settlers there Kirk starts asking about
the women there’s no computer data on them they’re sensor scans are ineffective yep so the computer is like she’s not picking anything up on the women so I guess she decides getting the whole room scan them in and she’s like I’m picking up um blood pressure elevated sweating heartbeat rapid pupils
dilated and and uh Kirk’s like okay that’s enough so Kirk asks if all the women are there voluntarily and they say they are they’re they all come from planets or communities apparently with either no men or I don’t know um because one of the girls was saying
yeah I just cook and clean for my brothers and and so there’s men there they’re just her brothers I mean surely I I don’t know for whatever reason they feel like there’s no eligible men and so that’s why they’re wanting to voluntarily be pimped out to some other planet with some lonely men I don’t know
one of the women said not only that you’re looking at us like we’re saturnius Harem girls or something as if they don’t realize or the like of course of course they are looking at you like that right I mean I I don’t know but maybe not of course they are maybe there shouldn’t be an of course
I don’t know and apparently Saturn has Harem girls didn’t know that who knew Kirk closes the hearing now they’re gonna turn mud over to the authorities at their earliest opportunity but Eve wants to know what’s going to happen to them and starts pleading with Kirk what about us what’s
gonna happen to happen to poor little us the lights start flickering again that’s the last Crystal uh now the whole ship is running on batteries and Kirk tells Spock to call ahead and tell rigel 12’s miners they’re going to need that lithium as soon as we get here
and then everybody leaves and mud gets excited hearing this he tells the women they’re headed for a planet with lonely Rich Miners and he doesn’t like evil monologuing here about how one of the girls will be a countess and the other are duchess and he’s going to be captain of the Enterprise
the whole time the two security guys are standing right the [  ] there I’m like why don’t they just go tell the captain what this [  ] just said I’m like he’s just spilling it like you know how like the evil egomaniac just starts diarrhea of the mouth like all his plans
um this is Dr Doofenshmirtz right I bet you’re wondering what I’m doing here at the beach at the clambic with an oven and normally I’d be all about telling you and it’s a really cool plan too it involves my latest invention the peach cobbler and Nathan but I’m getting way ahead of myself I have to tell you about
yesterday for any of this to make any sense it all started with an establishing shot of my building but normally it’s in private but I mean anyway yeah he’s just vomiting out all his plans and the two security guys are right there and not not only the security guys can could have gone and
should have told Kirk here hey this is what I heard but also in the earlier scene mud was like really playing down like we don’t want them to overhear us right when he was telling the girls just exactly tell the truth my name’s not Harry right and now and now it’s like no big deal I’m taking over the ship now
I’m gonna tell everybody my plans 12 hours away from rigel now in the Captain’s Log Kirk says that mud is confined to his quarters and the disruption of these women on the mail crew is getting worse but the women are allowed to roam the ship distracting the crew
why weren’t they confined accorders too especially if they’re causing the man all this trouble well not only that especially they’re from like a they’re not from the Enterprise like an alien planet yeah for the safety of the crew confine them yeah but whatever Ruth shows up in sick Bay
and she starts flirting hardcore with McCoy and I thought they were worried about medical scans why would she willingly go into sick bags she’s ridiculous so she goes right to straight to where she shouldn’t be going it stands underneath this computer monitor right and it starts beeping and booping
yep and she moves away and Mccoy’s like what was that why why did it act that way and then he goes and he he’s can you he says can you walk by my panel again and she says what you’re what he’s like can you walk by the thing again because and she does and I mean it’s like it’s not supposed to do that but then he’s
like are you wearing any kind of unusual perfume or something radioactive something Radioactive Ruth’s asking about the miners on rigel 12 are they healthy uh this is where we learned there are also three of them how convenient meanwhile Kirk rounds a corner into his
quarters and there lays Eve in his bed oh my [Music] God she’s she took Refuge there because she seems to be the only one she seems to be the only one bothered by the men looking at them
um so he supposes that they’re lonely and she says she really she like really understands that like I understand the loneliness and then she pulls on that Captain’s loneliness she’s pulling on his loneliness yeah um I do have some respect for Kirk because he does try to disengage from
the situation like um so I mean I’m like I appreciate that well she does try to kiss them though and he protests and then she’s just like oh I just can’t go through with this because she really likes him and then she doesn’t care what Harry says and then she kind of runs out before she can
really give an explanation or or Kirk and understand what the hell she’s talking about right like she admits that she likes him but she’s like I just can’t go through with this I hate it I hate the whole thing ran off Magna comes into the room where mud and Ruth are they’re talking about the
miners and he asks her if she got through to her Communications man so it’s obvious now there’s like a scheme afoot yep she’s working the everybody’s working every angle to get information so I’m assuming that that guy on the bridge was who she was pumping for information right so they both share
what they’ve learned about the miners three of them they’re all alone they’ve been alone for three years and but then Eve comes in and she’s distraught and she’s like I don’t like you talking to Harry she says I’m not feeling well I think it must be near the time and then they cut huh they cut back to the bridge
on the bridge Kirk’s barking an order at Farrell this guy’s name’s Carol Barrel yep you’ve said it twice and I was like I know the name I can’t think of it and he’s still distracted Kirk tells Scotty he needs just enough battery power to get to rival 12 and hold the orbit enough to get six crystals dolls okay so
how many crystals does this ship run on I thought it was four yeah we had four now it’s six did we start with two already burned out no I mean I know how the ship runs damn it I don’t get it Kirk and McCoy have a little chat here about the women they’re refusing to be examined
um are they actually the most beautiful women they’ve ever seen or do they just act beautiful I thought that was interesting because I seem to like have a like a noticeable effect on the men I mean they have women on the crew right
what makes these ones different yeah and acting I mean I guess the confidence you know it could be that and it will obviously the way they’re dressed as well of course and and the smolder thing that they’re doing back in mud’s quarters Magda hands him a communicator gives him the frequency and
he radios the miners on rigel 12. that sneaky bastard the Enterprise arrives at rigel 12 they’ll be able to maintain orbit for about three and a half days um which should be more than enough time to get these crystals and power back up yeah Kirk asks for a representative to be beamed aboard
um and this planet is a wasteland it’s windy all the time and blowing dust all over the place Ruth has become freakishly ugly now and she is freaking the [  ] out about it even Magda are hideous too and Harry’s digging through the drawers trying to find some pills yeah this I didn’t get yeah because these were his pills he says or well he’s we don’t know his pills but we eventually in a few minutes know it’s pills but he’s rummaging through these drawers saying I don’t know where I put it and they they accuse him of hiding them from from the girls and he’s like no I just I just put it somewhere safe so that I you know in case I was searched but why doesn’t he know where he put them right so he at first Eve talked like she hit them she said something like you’ll never find it okay so she hit him oh she did it because my feet yeah okay maybe that’s what it was but then we were led to believe then that he goes oh that’s right the mattress and he goes over the mattress and picks him up okay I am too okay but he knew where they were they’re basically the mattress there’s these pills I guess that give them the illusion of beauty Ruth and Magda take their pill Eve is a little bit more hesitant to take it but she does take it but she does call it it’s a cheat in the conference room Kirk and Spock meet with mining Chief Childress and Mr Gossett this is the scene where Kirk said that he’s authorized to pay an equitable price which we haven’t established any sort of economy in the original series at this point so like what’s the currency what are we paying credits probably of some kind I’m guessing I have no idea yeah but of course Harry Mudd has already been in contact with the miners before Kirk and has kind of struck a deal so this Ben Childress the chief minor demands mud’s release along with the women in exchange for the crystals but he wants to see the women first and Kurt Kirk’s like and and he argues they’re going to need medical supplies and cargo and protection from a Starship one of these days so like plug that into your equation yeah uh an inbounds hairy mud with his women and they get right to work smolder smolders Kirk says still no deal the lights flicker again they’re down to like half the battery power now yeah and mud’s got kirked by the balls you’re gonna have to make this deal eventually yeah Kirk Spock and for some reason Harry mud beamed down to the planet to try to find some crystals why did they take him with them I don’t know they should have had him locked up right why isn’t he back in quarters yeah uh inside one of the mining Huts the women are putting the moves on the miners Kirk tells Childress he’s one and asks for the crystals but Childress is too busy chatting up Eve now they want to get to know the women they’re like you know when when we find the time you’ll get the crystals and we know from earlier that Eve Eve’s caught some feelings for Kirk yeah so he she sort of stares at him longingly in this scene everyone else is dancing now and Childress ask Eve to dance but she starts coughing like oh no dude sorry this dust is really bad yep so he’s like mad he’s she’s he’s not getting the attention he wants from her so he tries to move on on the other women that that’s already dancing with one of his men so he takes that woman and then the other guy goes to take the woman from the other guy and then they get into this big fight so now we’ve got three guys fighting over two women because Eve’s kind of checking out yeah but she she’s checked out but then she also gets mad and runs away because she’s like well you right right so she runs out into the dust and Kirk chases after her uh so now Eve is out on the foam rock set which actually was yeah it looked just like the uh the frozen planet yeah except different lighting uh pushing against the wind and dust of this magnetic storm Kirk’s not far behind and Childress is out there too fast cut to a Captain’s Log they beam back up to find Eve and Childress with the ship scanners instead right uh the storm is making the equipment less accurate it’s draining the batteries even more five hours left why is mud on the bridge in the scene they just given him too much Freedom they let him go everywhere yeah they they just seem to think he’s harmless and he’s still got plans to take over the ship back on the planet Childress found Eve and carries her back into the cave house this is like uh The Flintstones house and Big Stone House yeah he puts her down and she still alive so he falls asleep because I guess like going through the sandstorm is pretty tiring so he falls asleep and he wakes up and he’s confronted with a much plainer Eve you know she’s not gorgeous anymore but I think she’s gorgeous but they tried to make her look plain yeah but the uh the beauty standards of the 1960s is is at play here yeah yep and she’s cooking him breakfast or whatever and and then she’s also moved some of his furniture so he’s kind of annoyed um with her so she’s she feels like you know you took me and I’m trying to repay you you went and saved me and I’m we’re paying you but you’re just being a dick about it right he’s like I do the cooking here and yeah and this whole scene was like the very 1960s like stupid gender roles like foreplay and she’s you know but he’s annoyed with her for taking over his house but like that’s what they brought them there for to be wives right I guess and to to do that but anyway and he’s like oh I suppose I’m supposed to just sit down and eat and be all female cooking how I’ve missed the uh so they’re bickering back and forth like it like an old married couple as one might say and and he’s not really attracted to her anymore because she now looks different she wasn’t glowing like she was when she when he first laid eyes on her one of the things they’re argue about is the skillet she was cleaning doing the dishes and she says there was three layers of food I couldn’t get off of off of your Skillet because you never clean it and he’s like well go find some water and I’ll clean it and she’s like why don’t you just hang it outside where the sand Will Blast into it because it blows sand around this place all the time and that will clean it he’s like oh I never thought of that you know so she’s smart too you know she’s got other qualities than just her beauty um it’s at this moment he starts to think maybe there could be something here but when he comes back into the Flintstone house Eve has started really reverting to her gnarly yeah uglier uh they have a big old argument here about her looks he calls her homely and says you know look I’ve got enough crystals for to have Queens what queen would want to live in that dump no but anyway yeah so Kirk and Harry show up and Kirk makes Harry explain the Venus truck that’s what’s keeping these women beautiful and of course it’s the Venus drug because Men Are from Mars and women Men Are from Venus apparently but also that’s a stupid book by the time Venus was the goddess of love the goddess of love love sex Beauty and fertility much better sense so that’s why I like that yeah and that explains that the drug gives you more of what you already have and his examples for this is men become more muscular and women become rounder men more aggressive women more feminine so all of this like sex stereotype [  ] totally just really cranking on
this episode Kirk says that the other miners married their women by Subspace radio and this was a weak plot point for me yeah like really by by Subspace radio you got married I guess I don’t know it didn’t it didn’t make any sense no but I guess it was just to depict okay hey
these two are done you know they’re resolved they’ve got their women and they’re good well Childress is pissed off now because all of the women are looking ugly now and his his Bros married them without knowing we’ve been cheated we had beer goggles on I don’t know yeah but yeah yeah it’s yeah you
bring a a hot person home and then when you wake up in the morning and you’re like oh hi what oh what did I do we’ve all been there Eve makes the case here that Childress doesn’t want a wife to help him to cook and so this is the description of the 1965 wife to cook and sew and cry and
need because that’s what all the magazines said a wife should be right in the 60s yeah or does he want a selfish vain useless Pretty Woman because you can’t be both for either or you know you’ve got to be either not mutually exclusive Kirk reveals here that he swapped the
Venus pills for colored gelatin so she turns beautiful again and she thought it was because she took the pills but it really wasn’t Kirk says you either believe in yourself or you don’t so like you said earlier about like that self-confidence or or whatever yeah um and McCoy was saying act beautiful I
mean yeah but there was something to the pill it as well I mean the pill was doing something to them confidence obviously did too but right so Childress says Eve’s gonna stay they want to talk yeah again like way to speak for the woman like she doesn’t have a a voice of her
own yeah Kirk does ask her though and rather than simply saying she wants to stay she has a line here that’s like we wouldn’t have worked out you and I like breakup line so I’m taking this guy over here with us yeah yeah uh and then she says
you’ve got someone up there called the Enterprise yeah and that’s what Harry Mudd had told them um early is like you don’t want a Starship Captain they’re they’re only they only love their ships I do like here that so I didn’t like the way that scene Started With Children speaking this decision for Eve where
he’s saying she’s going to stay we’re going to talk about this thing yeah they could have left it at that yeah right and and had been a simple reflection of the way things currently were yeah but they didn’t they put they put Kirk in the position of saying is this your willing decision to do this thing
and I’m glad they did that yeah so Kirk and Mudd leave to beam up and mud asked to be left behind on the planet as punishment yeah this was pretty funny the jab yeah and Kirk’s like he denies that request but he says I’ll be a character witness at your trial if you think that’ll help
and Harry’s like well if that’s the case I’ll throw away the key so the button on the episode KSM are having one of their chats around the captain’s chair and spot calls this a most annoying emotional episode [Laughter]
a Spock a little jab uh here at being an alien whose heart isn’t in the same place oh it’s more like over here yeah and Spock shoots right back the fact that my internal Arrangement differs from yours doctor pleases me no end I love that and that’s our episode I did mine this episode but it did hit
me in my feelings a bit um I don’t know I was just being overly sensitive this week that’s all right but like I’ve just been I’ve had like a bunch of stuff going on with me just being busy having to travel and then um trying to fix up the house and
um also you know hold down the job and do a good job because it fails to pay you know and then I’ve got other things that I’m committed to and and I’ve even got Hobbies which I have no time for and then all of that somewhere in the midst of all that I gotta you know take care of my mental health and my physical
health and then maybe try to have a social life and then all of this I’m doing alone which I’m not complaining about it because I’m not saying oh poor Ally she’s by herself this being alone to my choice yeah it’d be nice to have a partner but I’d rather be alone if and then rather deal with mediocrity
I feel like I’m capable of a lot and but honestly every time I think about dating what do you think I think what do you when I I’m flipping through the pages of I don’t know a dating app what do you think I ask myself I asked am I pretty enough um
no I don’t I’m not asking myself if I’m smart enough all right I don’t ask myself if I’m strong enough or I’m independent or I got my [  ] together no I’m I’m asking myself am I pretty enough yeah and that pisses me off because why am I like that I mean can I blame do I blame it on society or I don’t know like this episode I think he did a great job of bringing this to the Forefront of like this pressure that we are put under whether it’s ourselves or by society that we have to look a certain way or to get a man because none of that other [  ] is important that we are because it is and
I think this was a great episode they do this thing with the idea of beauty standards they’ve done it a lot I think in the first you know we’ve had a couple episodes that kind of really poke that like ideal standard of Beauty in yeah yep yep I mean and I wonder though do because I know like all men aren’t like
that right but maybe they maybe they think that’s what they want and then they get this woman and then they realize that’s not what they want at all right is they don’t want an empty headed person that’s gorgeous to look at but has nothing else to offer but they think they but I think they think they want
that it’s I thought yes and I thought of this in a reflection of my own body image issues right so like there was a point that I was like oh I would cosplay as Ruth that’s a cool [  ] outfit yeah I would love to do that except for my body image issues right like Trek Twitter of all unlikely places has I’ve been seeing like so much of a positive space for that kind of thing yeah like people of all shapes and sizes Post in pictures uh you know of them in Cosplay and right I love that and my initial reaction is like [  ] yeah for you yeah not for me
it’s hard it’s harder it’s hard to apply that back to myself yeah yeah I feel that I totally feel that it’s something I’m still working through I think this episode did a great job of like dealing with that thing so we have Harry Mudd who is literally pimping out these Illusions you know he was he’s like our
modern day dating app you know he’s yeah because he thinks that this is what men want um and this is what he’s kind of selling but in the end we find out as you see when when eve took the placebo that you know the illusion is really just [  ] and what’s important is how she feels about herself inside and that is the that’s the confidence yeah is the beauty is itself in and of itself the beauty and she she proved already that she’s more in the pretty face she’s caring because she’s like the only one who actually had a conscience in all of this I felt like yeah so yeah she’s the others were perfectly fine to go along with the whatever and here’s my man great yeah in a way they’re kind of victims too because yeah um but because they think they’re going to be duchesses and all this stuff but but um well and that’s the other part right and that’s the the slavery piece yeah like slave mentality for sure these women are being sold to men as property buy a man by another man and they’re okay they’re kind of okay with it as long as they as long as he gives them that illusion of beauty right um because that’s giving them their self-worth and yeah yeah I hate it but there’s so many levels and layers there are there was at one point I I’ve felt some type of way about like so we get to see Eve sort of consent to going along with this and we didn’t really get that from Ruth or Magda no so you’re left just having to assume that they’re they’re all consenting yeah but it just felt wrong to not see it yeah we don’t know if the men are happy if if they’re happy who cares if who cares if the men are happy um no but I mean yeah they just gloss right over that and then there was that whole like gender roles [  ] baked into it that you know the husband wife male female whatever relationship that’s described in the episode yeah I know it was the times yeah I think he told it the best way he could like without still yeah the times it was the times yeah all right well now it’s time for the Starfleet
Academy Cadet challenge I assume you’re loitering around here to learn what efficiency rating I plan to give you Cadets praise to the briefing room is that all you gotta say what about my performance aren’t you dead I don’t believe this was a fair test of my command abilities there was no way to
win there’s no correct resolution it’s a test of character now what is that supposed to mean I am understandably curious may I ask you a question who’s been holding up the damn elevator all right so let’s bring Becca back in for the exciting answer to last week’s challenge last time on humanistrek you
asked us why do the uniforms seem to fit differently in this episode I I mean I got some money oh yeah I think I can’t remember what I said do you did you write down what we said I didn’t um you said they either finally got some money or they got a new wardrobe person
okay yeah I think I know the answer to this though okay you want to change your answer positively oh yeah you can do that yeah yeah oh [  ] I’m gonna change my answer just because I know that this was an earlier episode so I think that’s right you mentioned that so I think that that may be why the order that we’re seeing them isn’t the order they were produced in right so and this was really an earlier episode it’s very early actually yep all right so what’s the answer come on what happened was please let me get this right the velor UNIF orm God damn it and the actors Union requirements specified that the costumes had to be cleaned after each use so ah man yeah it really didn’t have anything to do well it was a good day so they basically washed it and shrink it or something so it’s the same costumes they just fit differently because they shrink yes ah son of a [  ] I swear see I was overthinking it all right well next week we’ll be discussing what are little girls made of and I don’t remember anything about this episode nothing zolch no absolutely nothing well fortunately for you this question isn’t really based on anything having to
do with the actual premise of the episode okay good okay during the filming of this episode what was happening behind the scenes that should have been completed well before filming started oh [ __ ] what do we know
your guest best guess um it’s got to be something to do with the set that’s what I was imagine right this thinking a set is not completed that they had to have uh I mean and they already had the set of the Enterprise so yeah look whatever Planet they I don’t know I have no idea it’s got to be
something with the set read me the question again what was happening behind the scenes that during the filming of this episode was happening behind the scenes that should have been completed well before filming started oh what was happening behind the scenes that should have been completed it doesn’t necess
necessarily say building right it could have been a union negotiation you’re going to get that you need that I get that I’m gonna get that writer strike in there yeah no but I don’t know yeah I have nothing except the what I originally said which is probably wrong
[Laughter] all right well tune in that was a week to hear that that was an evil laugh well I’m a little evil all right and if you want to play along head on over to the social media share your answer it doesn’t have to be the correct one you can just try to make us
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play our dumb little game with us that Becca keeps kicking our ass out you too can get your ass kicked yeah exactly sorry you’re evil totally evil she is enjoying this and then do we have anybody die in this episode um don’t think we did did we so no unless you count hairy mud’s ego no no
one died and I do not count it no one died wow this is the first episode I think without without a death I feel like we’ve done that segment on every episode and this is the first one we did have a previous episode where nobody died hmm uh it was the pilot
of the cage they didn’t really have anybody but yeah zero body count for this one so no um no funeral no all dressed up and nowhere to go let’s get right to business fine I’m authorized to pay an equitable price Federation has invested a great deal of money in our training
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along with his Androids I didn’t remember this episode at all I didn’t I didn’t either I had no memory of this episode and the I don’t get the title what are little girls made of I don’t get the title but I guess we’ll see right all right well thanks for going on the journey with us kids we’ll
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